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What kind of traffic does Hacker News bring? What's the conversion rate?

If you make it top 3 on the main page, that probably means you got 10 upvotes from us and at least 90 organic upvotes, for a total of 100 or more. You'll stay there less than a day, then you'll fall to page two. which brings surprisingly good traffic still. Expect around 20-30k uniques, 2% out of which will respond to your non-monetary call to action. If you also sell something, expect more than 10 purchases.

What kind of content should I put there?

Anything that you won't see on the eight o'clock news, but it would lift ones' understanding of the world. It could be interesting knowledge that is hard to stumble upon yourself. Sadly, it's also often about what's happening at the big corporations. If any big executive at AAPL, MSFT, AMZN, FB or GOOG pees in a public place, you'll see it on Hacker News.

What's a good title?

Unlike Reddit, where you'd go for a long title that makes it very clear what the content or discussion is about, on HN you keep it short. Here are some titles that are either good or bad, try to guess which is which (answers after):

• A great way to build friendships!
• 10 ways in which you can improve your likeability factor
• [myhistoryblog.com] Reasons for the collapse of the Mongol Empire
• Reasons for the collapse of the Mongol Empire [myhistoryblog.com]
• Good article about the collapse of the Mongol Empire
• ShowHN: App that uses machine learning to tell you how beautiful you are
• AskHN: What are the best books to learn about thermodynamics?
• The 5 platonic solids
• What Korean girls find attractive
• What Japanese men look for in a woman [pdf]

Answers to the quiz from above: only the last three titles are fine to use.

More details about the guidelines here. Are here are the specific guidelines for Show HN posts. Notice that it's "Show HN" instead of "ShowHN". You need that space. Same with "Ask HN: ...?".

How do I tell my friends to upvote?

Copy-paste this to each of them:

Hello, my dearest friend! You've always been #1 for me. If you have a Hacker News account with at least 50 karma, please go here https://news.ycombinator.com/newest, find my post titled "How to murder your neighbor's dog", and upvote it. Thank you, greatly appreciated! If you ever need my help as well, let me know!

What kind of accounts do you use?

In order to upvote normal posts, we use accounts that average 800 karma. HN's algorithm that controls front-page visibility for new posts can be approximated by the statements that follow. To reach the main page guaranteed (unless your post gets downgraded by a mod or receives two or more reports), you need to have been upvoted by more than 10000 karma from at least two different accounts. Do the math. This means you can't post low-quality content, as even with our help, you will additionally need some organic upvotes from quality accounts. Don't factor downvotes into the equation, because there's no such button for HN posts; it only shows up on comments to high karma accounts.

How many moderators are there? Many of them aren't truly active with filtering content, but at the end of 2017 there were a bit more than 50 accounts with superuser powers. A few accounts were on the other spectrum, being so active that it makes you realize that they must hold no power or ability of value creation in their daily life. Otherwise, they wouldn't have focused so much on this unpaid job.

If your post is of obvious low-quality, like "Gaming laptops that you can buy online for under $2,000", we will upvote you with the accounts that we normally use for commenting. The total karma received will be much lower, therefore you'd better be hoping that we were wrong and that you'll receive enough high-quality organic upvotes to compensate. Your post will still be a lot more visible in the section for new items. We might recommend you to delete it so that we repost it ourselves with a title that respects the HN guidelines. This comes at no extra charge for you, it's just something that we need to do from time to time in order to protect our accounts. If your posts are outright spam, we'll refund you in credit, which you can use for another order.

For commenting, since no one actually clicks usernames to check their karma, we use low-karma accounts that in the rest of the time do domain-targeted upvoting, each on its own schedule. We're trying to grow them so that we can move them in our upvoters pool.

For posts, we use accounts that haven't been penalized in the past by the automoderator's algorithm. There´s a surprisingly easy trick that can be used to determine if an account is penalized or not, and we use it regularly to check the accounts from our posting pool.

Anything else that I should know?

You can create polls if you have more than 200 karma: https://news.ycombinator.com/newpoll

Comment sections are ranked in the same way as posts, which means that time matters as well, not just the amount of upvotes received.

The karma of the account used to post does not matter! It only matters that it hasn't been penalized in the past by the auto-moderator. Obviously, it shouldn't be a new account because it looks suspicious and the benchmark that you must hit in order to have the post moved to the front page is higher.

Formatting for HN texts: https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc

Reposts are OK, if enough time has passed since the last duplicate submission that did not get enough interest. Maybe try a better title this time!

If your IP got banned because you've been using the website too fast, unban using this link from another IP (like the one mobile data would give you): http://news.ycombinator.com/unban?ip=...

At this point, you should have enough information. But if you want to see some basics as well, check out HN's own Q&A.

You can purchase Hacker News services from us. We've been doing it publicly since 2004.

Many of our clients use only Quora in order to get leads for their products, which is why they often have us monitoring the Quora Questions that bring them traffic. Even though the service description is easy to understand, it is not thorough. In this article, we'll give an example of what's being done for this service. Below, we pasted the current service description, and we'll follow with an example question+answer, and what would be done for it:

Your answer will be upvoted, while the competition is downvoted, daily. This lasts one week. Whenever no such actions are needed, Question Follows are provided instead, which increases traffic to the question. We also use other types of actions for this service, like Thank, Bookmark, Report, Share, Comment, Edit topics, Suggest edits.

Now, for a more extensive example... What would we have done for the answer that now stands at the top in the question below?

This is a question showing up in the "Algorithmic Trading", "Tutorials" and "List Question" topics. Let's consider that our client has "Denis Bykov"'s answer, which we have already managed to raise to the top in the previous days. Since we're upvoting with quality accounts that are often subscribed and active in the topics of the question, the answers that we target can get to #1 while often having smaller upvote counts than the competition.

Now that the answer is in a solid position, below are some examples of the actions that we might take during one day:

• Remove the "Tutorials" topic that only has 6.8K subscribers, and add "Trading" instead. This comes with 2 million readers. If we would have added the big topic too early, it would have been harder to get the answer to the first position. In the coming days, more topics will be added.
• The question will be receiving more traffic because of the above, and we'll make sure that the answer maintains its position. We'll mostly concentrate on downvoting new answers that have a chance of challenging #1. If we see our client's answer getting downvoted more than we can handle, we'll email him and ask to improve the content of the answer. We might even suggest the modifications ourselves through Quora's "Suggest Edits" button.
• We'll keep adding a few question follows each day, in order to gain even more traffic for the question. It will show up in the feeds of more and more people who have followed various topics. Temporarily (for at most a few days at a time), we might change main topics of the question so that it gets a higher percentage of "fresh eyes".
• When it makes sense (often), we will add the kind of comments that start a discussion to your answer's comment section, or the kind of comments that confirm its statements.

Since what you're reading now is the favorite blog of our competitors, we won't reveal here the most effective and the newest methods that can be applied, but do know this: we've been in this business through this website since 2016, and some of us have been using Quora since September 2011. Their team dislikes us greatly, and they have banned the domains through which we sell our Quora services soon after finding out that "it's them again! 😒😒". Meanwhile, our competitors from Pakistan, India, etc., who only use bots for their services, haven't even had the domains of their businesses banned. That's because they are exactly the kind of "puppet masters" that Quora can handle. Their bot networks are taken down every few months together with the answers that they've upvoted, and afterward, they just boot up again the script registering shitty unrealistic accounts. Meanwhile, what we do is what real persons do on Quora, using our own accounts, through methods that cannot be distinguished from any other real Quora user. There's no comparison. Funny enough, we've even often reported their bot networks ourselves, and we've even published lists of their users to make it easy for the Quora team. So maybe they should like us more?

To close, do know that we also offer fully managed marketing services (normal, or for crypto-related products/services), where we use various marketing techniques like the ones summarized in this article. We won't promote you just on Reddit, even though that often ends up being the main source of traffic; instead, we will adapt and do whatever seems to work best for your target market. While we do this, you'll be able to concentrate fully on other aspects of your business. Getting specialized help is often what's needed to save time and achieve that optimal monthly profit and growth rate.

We're adding this to the Advanced category because it's easy to say, hard to do. While getting caught up in marketing, you might forget to put as much effort in optimizing your website. You need to use Hotjar to see what your users are doing, you need to read about conversion rate optimization and actually apply the learned skills, and you will need to keep improving the code of your website.

What does "improving the code" mean? Google and other search engines will rank you better if they see your website as having proper:

• Performance - how fast is your website? how long since the URL is typed until the user can actually use your website?
• Accessibility - how do users who are experiencing some kind of impairment or disability experience your website?
• Best Practices - how well is your website built? (this looks at everything from HTTPS usage to correct image aspect ratios)
• SEO - how discoverable is the important content of your website?

You will need to assess the above four dimensions with tools like web.dev, tools.pingdom.com (always use the same location!), and gtmetrix.com

The former website is the most important, since it's operated by Google itself. Here's for example how they're ranking us on the four dimensions:

The sad reality is that if you're using some kind of CMS (like WordPress, Joomla, Drupal), you should form the habit of re-checking rankings after each theme update. This translates to around once per month on average. A lot of things change when themes, plugins or the CMS's themselves get updated. Some of those changes are negative, and you will have some fixing to do in order to keep up your high rankings. Good luck in staying consistent!

P.S. - if you want to run your website through even more validators in order to eventually optimize it, we have exactly the article for you!

Email Marketing

Marketing through Chinese (Mandarin) cryptocurrency and ICO-related forums and social media channels

• We will ask you for certain texts which we'll translate, and we'll also create our own copies which you will have a chance to approve/improve before they go "in production".
• If it's for an ICO, this has to be ordered at least 35 days before pre-ICO or ICO start.
• If it's for a cryptocurrency or a project that has already had its ICO, it has to be contracted for a period of two months or more.

• You will receive screenshots with all the posts that are made, in real-time, through a shared Google Document.

Marketing through channels for natives other than English or Chinese

Reddit whole-website monitoring

This article will discuss some of the digital marketing techniques that we apply when promoting projects related to "crypto".

This includes any of these, either new or existing:

• cryptocurrencies (like NANO, Monero, etc.)
• smart-contract platforms (like Ethereum, Cardano, etc.)
• ICO's and IEO's (Initial Coin/Exchange Offerings)
• STO's and ETO's (Security/Equity Token Offerings)
• 2nd layer solutions
• centralized or non-custodial exchanges
• DAO's (decentralized autonomous organizations)
• dapps
• utility tokens, NFT's (non-fungible tokens), stablecoins, governance tokens, etc.
• DeFi liquidity pools
• smart-contracts in general (most of the above are included in this)

Our services have been used directly or resold by:

• other marketing companies
• advisors
• community managers, marketers or other staff belonging to the companies doing the fundraising
• investors with large shares of certain tokens
• swing traders
• etc.

They've been satisfied, and many have been returning with different products and services to promote in the past years.

For those reselling, it's easy to add even 300% on top because our prices are below average. Consider doing the reading and understanding our capabilities fully. We know there's a lot of information (including examples) in multiple articles, but we did it for those who want to go into detail.

If you want to advance straight to marketing your product, Premium #2 is our strongest fully-managed option.

You will have a campaign manager that will choose ops for you on a daily basis--whatever fits best from our capabilities depending on what would be best to promote currently (positive feedback on Reddit, the latest article mentioning your product, latest tweet from an Ethereum influencer, etc). The rest of the team will implement said strategy. With marketing settled, you will be able to focus on other aspects of your business.

For those reselling our services, it usually goes like this:

1. buy credit for each of your clients;
2. keep separate tabs on them (we'll keep as well);
3. send links to promote or request specific services to the campaign manager that will be assigned to you;
4. get reports back with what was done, including the credit report of your client;
5. for those clients of yours that have bigger budgets, also get services from the second article that contains additional marketing services for non-English markets, and more.

Below are a few examples of the kind of things that we can do, and their associated costs. The article will end with some packages that make it easier for crypto-related projects to deal with us by having us manage a large part of the marketing operations.

We can promote you on Quora

Monitored Quora questions in these, and any other topics:
https://www.quora.com/topic/Cryptocurrencies
https://www.quora.com/topic/Ethereum-blockchain-app-platform
https://www.quora.com/topic/Bitcoin
To monitor on Quora, this service should be used (mentioned here because it's the most expensive part of the order):
https://upvotes.club/buy/monitor-quora-question/

Recommended purchase, one month before the ICO:

1 x Quora Question
2 x Quora Answer
1 x Quora Comment
4 x Monitor Quora Question
$396.50

The question could be something like "What is the most overlooked ICO right now in the ***** sector?"

We can promote you on Reddit

Monitored Reddit threads in any subreddit related to cryptocurrencies.
To monitor on Reddit, this service should be used (mentioned here because it's the most expensive part of the order):
https://upvotes.club/buy/monitor-reddit-post/

Having your posts done on Reddit (especially the first ones that mention the ICO) without Monitor Thread is highly inadvisable. Even great ICOs will get ripped apart.

Example purchase, for /r/cryptocurrency or /r/ethtrader, where we have moderator accounts:

1 x Reddit Post
40 x Reddit Upvote Post
90 x Reddit Downvote Competing Posts or Comments (these would be used against other posts only)
4 x Reddit Comment (two of them would be kept in reserve, for example in order to answer to a hater if needed)
1 x Monitor Reddit Post
$188.70

The idea is to keep reminding people about the ICO, every 2-3 days, through different locations/techniques. Ideas for posts:

• Have a blog for the ICO, and link to every new blog post in related subreddits.
• Link to tweets or other types of social media posts that mention the ICO project positively.
• Link to videos, podcasts, or other types of media that mentions the ICO project positively.
• Link to 3rd party articles that mention the ICO positively. With these ones, even go for huge subreddits like /r/technology, /r/finance, /r/futurology, ...
• Present the project with long descriptive titles in subreddits that could be interested in it, while linking directly to the website.
• Create “What’s your opinion” or “Which is better” threads in /r/ethtrader, /r/icocrypto, /r/CryptoCurrencies, /r/CryptoCurrency, /r/Altcoin, /r/CryptoMarkets, etc.  Because of "Reddit Monitor Thread", the positive opinions will be sent on top, while the negative ones are kept at the bottom.
• Find threads where people discuss new ICOs, and bring a comment mentioning yours positively to the top of the comment section.

We can promote you on Hacker News

Link on Hacker News to the white paper, and to the more technical blog posts. You can also create a “Show HN:” thread for the whole project, and an “Ask HN: What’s your opinion …” thread.

For “Ask HN”:

1x Hacker News Post
1x Hacker News Comment
5x Hacker News Upvote
$39.75

For “Show HN” and technical posts:

Same as above, but 10 upvotes instead of 5
$49.50

We can promote you on BitcoinTalk

Bump your ANN thread from time to time. Bumps will be questions to developers, positive commentary on the technology, discussions between accounts, and so on. The English used will be impeccable, and the comments will blend well in the thread.
Buy the “BitcoinTalk Bump” service from the main page, for each bump that you want ($4.5).
Recommended: starting one month before, five bumps per day. We’ll spread them out, for more effectiveness.

At the rate of 5 bumps per day:

$22.5 daily, $675 for one whole month

If you want to just test our services, this is an easy way to start. Just go to our main page https://upvotes.club, add 15 BitcoinTalk bumps in the cart and complete the checkout while pasting the link to your ANN thread at Order Notes. This should give you a proper sample of the quality of our services.

We can promote you on cryptocurrency-related forums, Facebook groups, and LinkedIn groups

If you buy Forums Traffic for an ICO or cryptocurrency-related project, we post on all the popular cryptocurrency-related forums (BitcoinTalk, AllCryptoTalk, etc.). But don't expect this to be as cost-effective as the above strategies. We also don't provide the accounts that were used (meaning you won't get the users and the passwords); you will only receive the links to where posts have been made.

Regarding promotion in Fb/LinkedIn groups, again, this is not as effective as the first strategies listed in this article. When ordering this, you'll receive the list of groups that we'll be targeting in the following days. We use very organic-looking texts that are able to spark discussions, for example, "Opinions on ...? I like how [...]".

We can promote you on Product Hunt, and we have a whole article just about that.

We can also help with email marketing and promoting through non-English social media channels.

We can apply strategies that we apply to product launches (long article, but the information is worth knowing). A collaborating marketing agency helps us with most of those.

Costs of our services

We do not offer bulk discounts.

We do not participate in Bounty Campaigns.

We only accept payment through the main cryptocurrencies and PayPal / wire transfer. We prefer the former. We do not take tokens.

We have an NDA in our Terms of Service, with all of our customers, regardless of the plan you choose:

No Plan

• The client creates his own texts and strategy.
• The client orders normally through the website, whenever he needs something. At checkout, we accept the main cryptocurrencies.

Premium #1

• The client buys credit for $1,800 or more, all paid in the beginning. 20% of the deposit goes towards support, he’ll be able to use the rest for ops. The ops are acquired through the website with the "Deduct from credit" option at checkout.
• We receive whatever texts the client can provide, and we also create our own when needed.
• The client will order through the website with “Deduct from credit”, only when he knows exactly what’s needed. Otherwise, he’ll message us on Skype about it. We’ll help him optimize each order that he messages us about.
• We’ll do one Twitter campaign for each $1,800 bought in credit. We retweet with powerful accounts that have >90% at twitteraudit. Follower counts: ~500k, ~450k, ~50k, ~30k.

Premium #2

• The client buys credit for $3,600 or more, all paid in the beginning. 20% of the deposit goes towards campaign management and support, he’ll be able to use the rest for ops.
• Everything in Premium #1, but we’ll also propose ops ourselves. Not limited at the above strategies. For the ops that we propose, we also do: voat.co, hubski.com, empeopled.com, slashdot.org, snapzu.com, Fb/G+, LinkedIn (rarely), etc.
• If the client chooses so, this can be fully managed. He will have a campaign manager to which he emails new links where the ICO has been mentioned, and the campaign manager sets up the most efficient ops himself, taking care of the copies and the strategy completely. The client receives regular reports and credit updates.
• We’ll do one Twitter campaign for each $1,200 bought in credit.
• We’ll analyze their website/ANN thread/technical papers/code repository from the perspective of a buyer.

If you need a more global promotion, check out our article on additional marketing services for cryptocurrencies or ICOs, which has some very different, powerful and targeted strategies.

In order for you to understand the process better, I'll be pasting below the kind of email you receive from the campaign manager assigned to you, immediately after having bought Premium #2:

Credit added on your email. I will be your main UC contact helping with the marketing campaign for your project.

How do you want this?

• Fully Managed - Meaning that I take care of scheduling ops, you just send me through email new links where your project was mentioned positively. You'd receive reports with what has been scheduled, the results, and credit updates. Of course, nothing is set in stone, you can always request modifications to the ops that I schedule.
• Support - I send you 5-15 ops ideas based on the material that you send us, then you get inspired by them and schedule ops through the website with "Deduct from credit", and whenever you need help or feedback you email me (or you ask whoever is on Skype at the moment).

Since you're on Premium #2, you can choose any method you prefer. Do note that we prefer clients to choose Fully Managed, simply because we're better at choosing how and when to target each community, depending on what we're posting at the time.

The main idea is to have monitored posts on Reddit regularly, so that we keep reminding people about the project. Of course, we should also do Quora, BitcoinTalk bumps, even Hacker News when we have some interesting techie articles. If I put together some good texts, we can also promote on Facebook and Google+ crypto-related groups, and on crypto-related forums.

For the Twitter campaigns, I'll just need links to your best tweets sent to this email, and I'll handle it from there.

Regardless of your choice, when replying to this email please include any of the following that you want used for promoting your project:

• whatever marketing texts you might have prepared
• whatever articles discuss your project
• whatever (YouTube?) videos discuss your project
• whatever podcast episodes discuss your project
• do you have a blog? if yes, then links to what you consider to be the best articles
• whatever social media posts (preferable from reputable accounts) mention your project
• a list of your competitors, and why your project is superior to each one

In this post, we'll add random internet marketing tips, mostly related to our types of marketing (the ones that work for a good price). To be honest, we also like the bolded keyword because it has low competition, therefore we're hoping to have more people land from Google on our website and check the services that we offer because of this article. So, without further ado, below are some tips, and this post will be updated whenever something new comes up in our minds:

• If you contracted us to make a post or comment that leads to your website, don't go into the comment section to start replying as someone associated with the website! This is a huge red flag that makes people immediately realize that the post is actually a non-organic marketing ploy. Defending yourself with "I saw the referral in Google Analytics!" doesn't work. You'll get a reply similar to this one: So you're just sitting there, watching Google Analytics, waiting for some visit to your page in order to check its referral? Sorry, but this seems so staged, it's retarded. (actual comment received by someone who made this mistake)
• An exception to the above rule is when we're posting as if we'd be associated with your website (for example, in the Show HN area from Hacker News). In these cases, if there's a need for it, we'll give you temporary access to the account that we used to post, in order to answer any questions yourself.
• If you are curious about when is the best time to post on Reddit, read the article that we have on that. If you're hiring us to do the posts for you, consider letting us choose the best times depending on the networks and the post locations. Just specify at checkout that we have free rein with the scheduling. Or don't write anything regarding to when the posts should be made.
• To find out where you could post on Reddit, use this tool: https://www.delayforreddit.com/discover. It helps identify subreddits that have an interest in your keywords. A higher score means that a subreddit is more aligned with your topic. After identifying a subreddit, you can find where your target market is spending the rest of their time with https://anvaka.github.io/sayit/?query=
• Adding "/about/traffic" at the end of the URL for a subreddit to see its traffic stats doesn't work anymore.
• On Hacker News, you can bypass the filter not allowing URL reposts by adding variables to them. For example, https://upvotes.club would become https://upvotes.club?upvote=thanks
• Do you want to mention in the body of a text post a URL to a domain that is banned? No problem, just run the ending part of the URL partially through an obfuscator. We use this one: http://www.webhostingforest.com/seo-tools/tools/uo.html. For example, in order to post our link on Reddit, you would have to use something like this [text here](https://u%70%76%6f%74%65%73%2e%63%6c%75%62)
• On Hacker News, while the post is new, it might not matter how much you upvote it after a certain point. After fewer than 10 early upvotes with great accounts, you'll usually make it to the front page. It usually stays there, but sometimes one of these two happens: HN moderators might demote the post or you might receive too many reports. Since the traffic on the website is very high, this can happen so fast that you wouldn't even realize you've made it to the front page for a bit. A good strategy is to buy only a few upvotes first in order to make your post visible; then, after it remains approved for 30 minutes or more, buy more upvotes in order to rank it better, or to help maintain its good position. A lot more details in our information article specific to Hacker News.
• Make sure you always read the rules before posting (on Reddit, you would find them on the sidebar). Modify your title and content accordingly! On some subreddits, if the option is available, flair you post after submission (this means you tag it for a subcategory). Here's how: https://www.reddit.com/r/chiliadmystery/comments/1uq68v/how_to_flair_your_post/
• Use this tool to create memes and make your target audience smile! :)

And since it's important to have a perfect landing page as well:

• Use this tool, or use the free tier of "site audit" from SemRush (honestly, not worth paying for more!) to analyze the SEO prowess of your pages. Both are free and good enough.
• Use this tool to discover new keywords for your SEO ops. The list that the free version gives you is enough.
• Use this tool to discover keywords that you wouldn't have thought about, but will make search engines understand the content better.
• Check the performance of your website: https://gtmetrix.com, https://tools.pingdom.com, and especially https://web.dev/measure.
• Check your website's availability, and the consistency in page size: https://www.uptrends.com/tools/uptime

Bookmark this article, and come to it from time to time. More internet marketing tips will be added in it, and more articles will be added to our blog, which has two categories: basics and advanced!

Buy Reddit upvotes and other marketing services from our main page! Here's an article that discusses buying Reddit upvotes. On our website, you can also buy Reddit accounts.

• How much traffic can Hacker News bring? The question should be: "How much traffic can Hacker News bring if I make it to the front page?". Answer: it depends greatly on how clickbaity your title is. It can bring from 20k to 65k in the first 24 hours.
• Same question, but for GrowthHackers: you'll get between 1,000 and 2,500 views in the first 24 hours. Most of these will be from business owners though, and in general... people with a lot of money, technical knowledge and influence. A big difference to Hacker News is that you'll keep getting a decent number of clicks, even after the first 24 hours.

A successful business starts with a successful product launch. In collaboration with another marketing agency, we can take care of everything that will be required to start the engine of influx: the right people will find out about your website or creative content through various pathways built by us, and ultimately they will convert to paying customers or fans.

This article is a presentation of our Successful Product Launch service. Don't think of it as usable only for promoting a website. This service may also be employed (and has been in the past) for crowd-funding campaigns on public platforms, music albums, online documentaries, promoting decentralized projects with working MVPs, SaaS products, fundraising, and so on. We've even promoted other marketing agencies, giving them proper exposure in the niche or the country that they were targeting.

This is not a classic PR gig like most marketing companies offer (even though when it fits, the marketing agency that we collaborate with might ask for a press kit and pitch certain news angles to journalists). When it comes to PR, we are of the opinion that simply signing up for an account with prnewswire and having the founder write a press release from time to time is enough. Alternatively, he can launch free press releases using prlog.org. No need to use a lot of time and dignity by going after journalists yourself.

We start this service by thoroughly analyzing your offering and its marketability, and then recommending certain changes that will help us promote it, or might increase the conversion rate of first-time visitors. We usually appoint one person to stay in contact with the client through Telegram or Skype, to help coordinate what will be done. In the past, we used to create a Slack group where we integrated Mention, your Analytics solution, and other addons that helped us assess the exposure. Multiple representatives from us and the second marketing agency were discussing with the client various approaches. Afterward, they had to coordinate with each other. This had become unsustainable because managing and discussing in so many groups occupied too much of our time. We'd rather invest the time into marketing, and find ways to focus the discussion and the assessments of efficiency and strategy. We got to where we are now, where we do all the planning through one person. These first steps take 7 to 10 days, therefore we ask clients to try buying this service 2 weeks before their product goes live (or two weeks before they want the marketing to start if the product is already live). The earlier, the better.

We will acquire a complete understanding of your product/service, your potential clients, your competitors, and your needs. We'll be able to craft plans for the first few days of marketing, which you will approve or veto, or guide us on how to improve them. For the first few days of the product launch, we usually have a well-defined plan that we go through. Afterward, it's about adapting to the feedback and the data received, day by day. It mostly goes like this: while taking into account the effect of previous techniques and marketing copies, we propose ops to you; you approve, reject, or request changes to them. We implement them. This lasts for two weeks.

If you add the time-spans from the previous paragraphs, you'll find that it takes ~4 weeks to put your business on the tracks of success. Since we prefer for the process to not take longer than that, we reserve the right to filter our clients (and refund those who paid but would be too hard to promote). For this reason, if you have doubts about the marketability of your offering, drop an email to the address below, asking if what you have is a good fit for the Product Launch service:

In today's competitive world, a business needs to think differently in order to be successful. It needs to walk on the lesser-known paths. We are here to guide you. Some of our core objectives have always been:

• to think outside the box (except we actually do it, not just use these words because they are edgy)
• to be honest about what's required to achieve in order to promote something; we get our hands dirty, and that's why we rely on an NDA with every client
• to keep attempting to start viral threads (and often succeeding), so that bloggers and journalists end up coming to you, and influencers on social media share what you're hoping for without prior communication or payment - simply because you're doing something awesome!
• to keep adapting (improve our techniques in the next day, based on feedback received today)

Both us and the collaborating marketing agency will be tailoring our strategies based on your offering. We're not robots, going through the same set of steps over and over again, with different clients.

Because of the offering of Upvotes Club, you usually end up with highly visible threads on multiple social media networks, with positive comment sections. The posts & comments are made and monitored until the initial surge in traffic diminishes. The threads will show up high in search engine rankings for various keywords, and some of them will start chain reactions in online news sources and social media feeds. Some of the networks that we target with monitored ops:

• reddit.com (and no, we’re not posting in /r/promote, /r/imadethis, and other irrelevant subreddits, like others would do in order to simulate usefulness; we select subreddits where the target market resides)
• quora.com (questions and upvoted answers leading to your website; you'll be amazed by how many of these end up as the #1 result for various Google queries)

Networks that we target depending on the type of community that the product needs (some can be very effective):

• snapzu.com
• voat.co
• news.ycombinator.com
• growthhackers.com
• hubski.com
• the-artifice.com
• 4chan.org
• zeronet.io
• lobste.rs
• slashdot.org
• aminoapps.com
• kuende.com
• peepeth.com
• sociall.io
• cent.co
• bitcointalk.org
• gab.com
• joinmastodon.org
• minds.com
• friendi.ca
• mewe.com
• plurk.com
• ello.co
• scuttlebutt.nz
• designernews.co
• indiehackers.com

If necessary, you will receive temporary access to some of the accounts that we use to post for you, in order to reply to feedback, questions, and so on.

The other marketing agency will, similarly, customize its offering depending on your actual product or service. They can submit content (usually in the form of an article) mentioning your product on:

• fark.com
• various pods or instances on diasporafoundation.org, gnu.io and pleroma.social
• livejournal.com
• publish0x.com
• steemit.com and hive.blog (using these less lately because they've declined)
• metafilter.com
• micro.blog
• tumblr.com
• their own blog network (which also uses some free online publishing platforms like Medium, WordPress and Blogger)

If not done already by you, they will submit your startup to all the important directories (at least 40) and give you the credentials afterwards. These are platforms like betalist.com, alternativeto.net, capterra.com, g2crowd.com, etc.

Notice that they have access to a different arsenal than ours, making them a perfect complement. Some other strategies that they employ, often in collaboration with us:

• guest posting and subscription lists (these particular arrangements can end up costing you more though; not included in the normal price)
• possibility to get a link trending on stumbleupon.com
• upvotes on slickdeals.net
• reviews on App Store, Google Play, TrustPilot, Amazon
• reviews on Google Maps, Bing Maps, Apple Maps
• marketing in Facebook and LinkedIn groups
• tweets from accounts with many real followers (as checked with twitteraudit.com) and actual engagement

If you’re purchasing this service for a game on any platform, or for a cryptocurrency / smart contracts platform, know that there are so many communities that we could post on that we’ll have to choose only the most important ones. If you truly want posts everywhere, please buy this service two times for the same project, as our volume of work will be tremendous.

If you’re a perfectionist and you want to do absolutely everything that can be done, consider buying these additional and complementary services from our offer:

• The Ultimate SEO Gig (not really required, since you get a lot of SEO love anyway from the posts that we make)
• ProductHunt Upvotes (highly recommended)

Also create a Quora account that you'll be using to advertise your product or service through answers, then use Maximize PeopleRank to improve its importance and visibility in the topics that present interest to your company.

A successful product launch can be all the marketing that you ever need.

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As an experiment, designer Sacha Greif took Fiverr up on their offer and ran a project through the service, only to find that many of the portfolios presented were full of other designers’ work, and the delivered logos were knocked off from somewhere else.

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I was hired to write a 75,000 word novel, a $560 job.  The client was so happy with my work, she gave me a 5-star review and asked me to do more large projects. Suddenly, account BANNED by Fiverr

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Why you should buy Reddit upvotes as part of your marketing campaign

Reddit isn’t just for funny cat memes anymore. It is a serious global website, being the 10th most popular website in the United States. Being featured prominently on Reddit, especially on a larger subreddit, can get you, your brand, website or product a LOT of attention. However, it is not easy to get that attention. If you have used Reddit, you’re familiar with the voting system. One upvote equals one “like” essentially, and a downvote is a “dislike.” The more upvotes you have, the more people can potentially see your post.

Getting Reddit upvotes can get you the exposure that you need for your marketing campaign. It is crucial that you buy Reddit upvotes as soon as your post goes live so that it gets an instant boost and traction in the feed. This will get a post to the “rising” and “hot” categories of the subreddit, both of which will get you a lot of views and engagements. A well-optimized Reddit post with well-timed upvotes can potentially make your content go viral. This is especially true if you have not neglected the quality of your content and have done the proper research. Viral marketing campaigns are hard to pull off, so buying Reddit upvotes and give you a strong advantage.

Anyway, now to move on to the bulk of the article itself. This was written in 2016, and is mostly on the psychology of why strategies like the one named in the title work better than traditional marketing. Buying upvotes, regardless of the platform, has always been a contentious issue where the public is extremely split:

• Some Reddit readers haven’t thought about it, and don’t even know that this is a possibility. If your market your products/services/music/cause/etc. on the Reddit platform, these people will eat it up! When oblivious creatures see a 3rd party recommending something, they usually believe it if it's upvoted enough. Top comments are the truth, right? There's less cognitive effort required to just accept what the majority seems to be recommending! You don't have to take our word for it, just search on Google Scholar for "fake review effectiveness" and you'll find that there are definite studies on that. It's the only thing that guides the majority of shoppers nowadays.
• Others believe that Reddit’s anti-spam system is unbreakable. They believe that trying to get past it can actually hurt more than it helps (think banned domains, shadowed accounts, what actually happens when you upvote with bots). They'll be right in that it's definitely better than Facebook's spam feed. This group might purchase even more of your products or services because they trust the system. "400 upvotes, top of the subreddit? Let me click on it!"
• Others know about it and have used this strategy to create strong, trusted and popular companies that generate profit with very low customer acquisition costs. /r/nootropics and thousands of other subreddits have decided on the best providers already, they're common knowledge among their subscribers and they even add them to their wikis. Why pay money for Reddit ads, when ads barely work anymore? You can promote on this platform and others much cheaper, and be more effective! The effect will also be long term, it won't just stop when you don't pay for ads anymore!
• There's also a 4th group, the ones that know about it but don't have any reason to use it. In order to not get called out by these people, we make sure to upvote manually and use real accounts with perfect English when commenting. More about our process here: Why work with us? Worth reading to see just how far we go to protect our customers!

The penultimate category is represented by our clients. The first two categories are people that see a comment recommending something and take it as legit, with little scepticism. Or they see an upvoted post reviewing a new online tool and there's a high probability that they'll sign up and try it. Or they make great purchasers for your products or services. Or an easy to acquire following for your cause. Or fans, if you are an artist. Or supporters, if you've started a crowdfunding campaign. Examples could go on.

The best marketing is word of mouth, and Reddit, Hacker News or Quora are word of mouth on steroids. Reddit upvotes and downvotes (here's a revealing article about adding Reddit downvotes to your marketing strategy) can bring a lot of positive cash flow and recognition to any artist, politician, startup or already-established business. It does so fast, in less than 24 hours. Combined with strategic comments and posts, they can ruin a competitor. The threads that we create will also have long term effects, showing up for various keyword searches in Google, Bing and DuckDuckGo searches. Why? Because the networks that we work with have domains with huge domain authority, they're not Google competitors, and they'll continue to be around in a few years - therefore the content that brings you clients will still be up. Again, examples could go on.

You don't have to use this strategy for direct conversions, which is what we do predominantly. You can take it slowly and first bring a lot of Reddit traffic to your blog. Or get a lot of subscribers for your mailing list, which you’ll convert later. The possibilities are really endless.

We greatly dislike a certain reason when it comes to why some people won’t buy Reddit upvotes: they’ve been scammed before. Actually, at the time when we’re writing this, the first few websites that appear on Google when searching for „buy Reddit upvotes” are actually scams. We know because we've tried them ourselves. First off, they’re slow. They won’t start upvoting as soon as you place the order. They’ll wait 24 hours so that moderator traffic goes off the post at stake, and they can upvote it with less risk. The accounts that they use are extremely low quality and most of the upvotes won’t count. They’ll justify it with „you’ve been downvoted as well, it’s out of our control!”. They are so uninterested in providing a quality service that they use software like „Reddit Automation Bot”, „Reddit Account Creator and Upvoater”, "B.H.T. Reddit Bot", "Rabbit", "Socinator", "Reddit-Marketing-Pro", "ASB Reddit Bot", "AIO Bot", "Reddit Voter" or „Reddit Dominator” in order to do their job. With all these low-quality services, your accounts will generally be banned in less than one week. If you're lucky, it can take up to ninety days. The services on Fiverr and SEOclerks related to this are even worse. Do you actually believe someone will give you 40 upvotes for five dollars? And do it manually? Just one person? No.

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We are a team of eleven persons who use Reddit ten hours per day. Most of us have been doing this for over five years. Many of the accounts that we use have received gold numerous times and have an amazing reputation in the subreddits that they're targeting. We have moderator access to over 2,100 subreddits. Six of the accounts from the Karma Whores top 100 rankings belong to us. We have a monopoly when it comes to offering a quality service, and not just on Reddit. We've helped a lot of startups to grow into companies. We've helped political groups. We've helped apps get the spotlight in the App Store. We've helped musicians get trending on SoundCloud. We’re friendly. We’ll keep doing this. We want to help companies succeed without huge marketing budgets. Our most trusted clients receive access to our backup websites, therefore our connections cannot break. Try us! We'll bring qualified traffic, interested people, where you want them.

The following explains why you should buy Reddit downvotes for competing posts in addition to the upvotes that you get for yours. The same strategy is applicable to other networks, including Voat or Snapzu. For Quora, please skip to the last section.

Why buy Reddit downvotes

Let’s say you want your post to stay for at least 24 hours on the first page of an average-sized subreddit  (200k-300k subscribers). Even if your content is good, you have to be lucky in the first hour, especially the first few minutes. If you get downvoted early (even just one or two downvotes), other people won’t even open your thread because it doesn't show up at /Rising or /Hot - basically, they don't see it. This might all seem like bad news, but we can actually use it to your advantage with SUBSTANTIAL effect. Because of what I’m writing next, we've been able to get posts on the first page easily in huge subreddits like /r/music, /r/videos, and /r/gaming. It would have been a lot harder, maybe even impossible, without this strategy:

Here’s what you’ll have to do:

• After you've made your post, don’t wait too long before purchasing what you need from us. The sooner we start work, the better. Note that you should synchronize your posts with our working schedule. You can also schedule your posts, meaning that you order what you need from us before having done the actual post, and mention during checkout at what time you'll be posting, where, with what user and with what title.
• For a post of above-average quality in a huge subreddit, buy 8 upvotes for every 100k subscribers. For a small to average-sized subreddit, buy 1 upvote for every 10k subscribers. Of course, there are many factors that can shape your decision on the number of upvotes: What's the quality of the post? When are you posting? Are you doing it mostly or only for SEO? Are you trying to bring it in the top of the month for that subreddit, maybe even top of the year in order to get a constant stream of traffic? And so on. If you're lost, consider buying a strategy consultation with us first, or just buy one of our managed marketing packages and we'll handle everything!
• Consider getting a “top comment”. It shapes the opinion of others as soon as they enter the comment section. They take it as the most popular opinion and therefore most probably true (argumentum ad populum). Basically, add to cart a comment and however many upvotes you consider necessary for it. If it will be the first comment posted in the thread, anchoring should play its role as well. Of course, more comments will have an even greater impact, but their effect starts to plateau after the fourth. One should always be the minimum. But getting more than four root comments per thread - in our experience - doesn't seem to be more effective than getting just 4; after this point, it just becomes money spent, and nothing else. It's best to have a few comments, but upvoted, instead of many comments at the bottom of the comment section.
• And the main trick: buy Reddit downvotes for competing posts as well! The ratio between upvotes and downvotes should depend on the subreddit size and the hour when you’re posting, therefore you’ll have to look and decide for yourself. The more competition exists in the New tab, the more downvotes you need. For example, to access the New tab on “/r/gaming”, you’d go to “/r/gaming/new”). "Competition" means many new posts. For subreddits under 5,000 subscribers, you don't need to downvote competing posts. The standard ratio for a small to average-size subreddit should be 1 to 1 or 2 to 1 (two downvotes for every upvote). For a big subreddit with more than 300,000 subscribers, the ratio should be 3 to 1 (three downvotes for every upvote). For a huge subreddit with more than two million subscribers, the standard ratio should be 4 to 1. If you buy too many, your downvotes aren't wasted because we just downvote what's in front of your post in the /hot sorting.

Here’s what we’ll do in return:

• We’ll upvote your thread alright, but we’ll also downvote “the competition”. This is represented initially by other threads rising fast in popularity in the targeted subreddit. This way, we achieve four things:

1. Your thread will be the most visible in the /new tab.
2. Your thread will be on the pole position in the /rising tab.
3. When comparing it subconsciously with other threads, redditors will suffer from the successive contrast effect (another bias that works for us), which leads them to see the content as better than it actually is.
4. If you bought enough downvotes, we won't stop there. As soon as the thread reaches the top 30 position in the /hot tab, we'll redefine "competition" as being the threads that are in front of yours there, and we'll downvote them. This will make your thread rise extremely fast to the top because of how Reddit's algorithm works for that tab (interestingly, they actually track the u/d ratio in the last hour, and not since the inception of the threads).

The result:

• Your thread will get a lot more “natural” upvotes. It won’t rise in rank only because of our upvotes.
• It will also get more positive comments.
• You end up spending less money because downvotes for competing threads are a lot cheaper than upvotes.
• You won't get called out, because instead of having many upvotes and an average position, you'll have fewer upvotes but a higher position, therefore enjoying more traffic and engagement in a way that's not suspicious.

Why buy downvotes on Quora

We will upvote your answers while downvoting competing ones to help you surpass them without visible proof for the visitors (because upvotes are public and downvotes are not). The more answers you have in front of yours and the more upvoted they are, the more downvotes you should buy. Even more than upvotes! They’re also half the price!

Reports of 3 to 1 are the median when ordering for Quora (buy three downvotes for every upvote), but what you need can vary greatly depending on the status of each question (positioning, upvote counts, the reputation of the accounts that are surpassing yours, and so forth).

Ranking answers this way helps their chance of remaining at the top for longer, and it doesn't raise the same suspicion that comes with getting 50 upvotes in a few days (which will also be less effective in getting you the top position).

Please consider reading as well the last part of our Reddit Marketing article, from the paragraph starting with "Google takes into consideration". Your understanding of Reddit Marketing strategies will improve even more.